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    Mark Forster is the author of three books about time management and personal organisation. The most recent, Do It Tomorrow, was published by Hodder in 2006.

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    Friday
    Sep042009

    Working Live Today

    Key:
    Tasks on list at start of day
    Current Task

    Actioned tasks
    (numbered in order of completion)
    Tasks added during day

    [Tasks marked for review]
    —————————— = Start of Open List
    (1156) timed log entry (at end)

    THE LIST

    13 Cancel Insurance Policies (1018)
    15 Write Henry S. (1053)
    [Contribute to P & Y’s Charity]
    10 Buy Guillotine
    [Weed Old Accounts]
    [Ring Ben’s Gutters]
    [Get Phoenix Insurance Claim signed]
    [Investigate ways of marketing and selling E-book]
    [Approaching businesses?]
    11 Photo Plus Manual
    [Sort out Domain hosting]
    14 Photos for Facebook
    12 “Taxi Driver”
    [“Fanny Cradock”]
    [“I Know Where I’m Going”]
    [“The Edge of the World”] [1452][1534]
    ——————————————
    Check details needed by Travel Agency
    56 Schedule for Newsletters?
    16 Restaurant for L’s birthday?
    Card for L
    Weed Noguchi
    57 Portuguese 17
    Aeneid
    “Then She Found Me”
    Write E-book
    Write M
    67 Read “Ultra Simple Guide”
    Camera Manual
    Return chalk to T
    Brain trainer
    17 Tidy Office
    68 “Fleurs du Mal”
    18 Make Bed
    German 24/3
    19 Facebook
    50 Spanish 12/2
    Mow Lawn
    Sort out Google bar
    Blog “7 Habits of Poor Time Managers”
    “Saraband”
    Write
    20 Bureau Top tidy?
    21 MicroPlaza
    Reading List (oldest)
    Reading List (newest)
    G replied?
    22 Desk tidy?
    23 Exercise
    Walk
    Tax Return
    Photo Galleries
    Squarespace Videos
    47 Check BP
    Journal 10+
    24 Investment Managers
    25 RegZooka
    26 Cut Hedge
    27 NumberWatch
    28 Carswell
    69 “The Cell” (2300)
    Paper
    1 Comments (0800)
    2 Voicemail

    29 Fix date for lunch with Carol N
    3 Email
    4 FTSE (0833)
    “Top Gear”
    5 Lowest Point Forecast
    30 Back Up
    31 Reading
    6 Doodle
    Change Wallpaper
    58 Reading List (quality)
    7 Pitch C#
    8 Wash Up
    Autopager?
    Firefox extension name?
    9 Comments

    Voicemail
    32 Email
    33 FTSE
    Lowest Point Forecast
    Doodle
    34 Pitch C#
    35 Wash Up
    36 Comments (0904)
    PhotoPlus Manual
    “Taxi Driver”
    Cancel Avon Policy
    48 To Think About
    37
    L replied re Henry?

    38 L replied re restaurant?
    Check Porsche Tyres
    Check Polo Service
    Tidy Office
    39 Read Newspaper
    40 Check Site Visitors for today
    Make Bed
    Facebook
    51 Find Driving Licence
    Bureau Top Tidy?
    52 Regenerate Friend Wheel
    41 Ordo
    Investment Managers
    Carswell
    59 Carol N replied re lunch?
    Diaries of Adrienne v. Speyr?
    42 Lunch
    53 SpyZooka
    RegZooka
    54 Reading
    Pitch C#
    Write Henry
    55 Book restaurant
    43 Reserve District 9 and Tricks
    44 Comments
    45 Wash Up
    46 Email
    Voicemail
    56 Site Visitors
    Ordo
    49 Comments
    Wash Up (1450)(1709)(1847)(1849)
    —————————————————
    Check BP
    60 Email
    61 Comments (1528)
    Check weeding schedule for old accounts
    Find Phone Number for Ben’s Gutters
    Prepare papers for Phoenix signing
    Check domain hosting records
    “Fanny Cradock”
    Spanish 13
    62 Tweetdeck
    SpyZooka
    63 Reading
    64 Site Visitors (2046)
    Newsletter Template
    Portuguese 17/2
    Try out issuu.com
    Reading List (quality)
    65 Email
    66 Tweetdeck
    Email (2057)
    “Fleurs du Mal”
    “The Cell”


    0800. The list is divided into two unequal parts, divided by a line ———————. Different rules apply to each part. I am starting where I left off yesterday, near the end of the list. The method here is to move down the list taking action on those tasks which feel ready to be done. I will number tasks in the order they are done so you can follow the sequence. The numbers in brackets after some tasks are times, and refer to the log entries at the end of the list (of which this is the first).

    0833. This is reminding me why I hate using electronic means of working a to do list! It’s slowing me down no end. The Squarespace editor is also being annoying - a blank line has appeared in the middle of the list which I don’t seem to be able to get rid of. Never mind!

    0904. I’ve now reached the end of the list. My next action is to go to the beginning of the list - into the part of the list before the line (——————). Oooooerrrr!!!

    1018. Within the first part of the list, I keep circling round the list until nothing further seems ready to do.

    1053. I’ve now been round the first part of the list three times, and there’s nothing further that seems ready to do. So now I start on the second part of the list. I only do one pass of this before going back to the first part.

    1450. Now reached the end of the list for the second time today. So back to the first part of the list (the “backlog”)

    1452. None of the tasks in the “backlog” stand out for action so I have marked them all up for review (on paper I would have used a highlighter for this). At the same time I have drawn a line at the end of the list so that the whole current list becomes the “backlog”. All new tasks will now go below this line.

    1528. Now reached the end of the list for the third time today. Notice how fast I moved through the list this time. Back to the beginning of the list.

    1534. What I have now done is delete all the items marked for review. You will see that I have re-entered some after rephrasing them. One I have re-entered as it was (A recorded TV program that I haven’t yet had time to see). The rest I have dropped altogether because I decided the time wasn’t yet ripe for them.

    1709. Reached end of first part of list - back to the beginning. On another subject, this page has been loaded 5,973 times today (and it wasn’t all by me!)

    1847 End of first part of list again - back to beginning.

    1849 I’ve been round the first part of the list again without any tasks seeming ready to do - so on to the second part.

    2046. Page has been accessed 7,507 times today.

    2057 Reached the end of the list again. Back to the beginning. I’ll select a next task, but what I’m really going to do is go and watch NCIS on tv!

    2300 That’s it for today. 70 tasks completed. 8,604 page views. I hope that’s given everyone a good idea of how powerful the system is. Now I’ve just got to copy everything I’ve done today back into my paper notebook!

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    Reader Comments (188)

    Morning, Mark.

    What is the rule for placing the line?
    September 4, 2009 at 8:11 | Unregistered CommenterWooba
    Mark,

    Are you working in AF or AF2?
    September 4, 2009 at 8:18 | Unregistered CommenterCatus Lee
    Morning Mark.

    I guess placing that line is one of the most important parts of AF4. So I'm really curious to read the rule.
    September 4, 2009 at 8:19 | Unregistered CommenterJiru
    Since Facebook is on your list, which Mark Forster there are you? I didn't see you in the search results I looked through. There is a Mark Forster in the Autofocus Group, but he ... doesn't look anything like you. My profile is here: http://www.facebook.com/andreas.michael.hofmann
    September 4, 2009 at 8:30 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
    I guess the the stuff above the line is the "backlog".
    September 4, 2009 at 8:32 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
    Re facebook: never mind, it seems that is you in the Autofocus Group. ^^
    September 4, 2009 at 8:36 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
    Boy, I wish I was self-employed and could put, and then action, "Doodle" on my list...! ;-)
    September 4, 2009 at 8:45 | Unregistered CommenterRichard
    good guess, andreas. would make sense if below the line was an open list. i don't think mark is going to tell us much, at least early on. we'll probably have to infer things.
    September 4, 2009 at 8:52 | Unregistered Commenterclay
    Richard:

    << Boy, I wish I was self-employed and could put, and then action, "Doodle" on my list...! ;-) >>

    Like many of the entries that has a cryptic meaning which only I understand!
    September 4, 2009 at 8:57 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
    Andreas:

    << There is a Mark Forster in the Autofocus Group, but he ... doesn't look anything like you. >>

    He looks like I looked in 1975!
    September 4, 2009 at 8:58 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
    Andreas:

    << I guess the the stuff above the line is the "backlog". >>

    Correct, though I prefer not to call it that.
    September 4, 2009 at 8:59 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
    Catus Lee:

    Are you working in AF or AF2?

    The fourth (unpublished) version. See http://www.markforster.net/autofocus-index/
    September 4, 2009 at 9:01 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
    Wooba:

    << What is the rule for placing the line? >>

    It goes at the end of the whole list when the previous "backlog" is completed. So three days ago that line included the whole list.
    September 4, 2009 at 9:02 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
    Hi Mark
    It's 4:14 am here......I'm drugged and riding out the pain via your live blog. Thanks for the entertainment. The tv only has junk shows and infomercials. I have my music going also. Because I'm still grateful to not have a backlog since you bailed me out of mine a few years ago......I'm am curious as to how you define a backlog these days.....

    You stated:
    It goes at the end of the whole list when the previous "backlog" is completed. So three days ago that line included the whole list.

    Because I work from a weekly format, I'm shocked that you define work less than 3 days old as a backlog! LOL! How do you define it? Even DIT standards allowed up to 4 days to catch up on the loose ends!
    learning as I go
    September 4, 2009 at 9:19 | Unregistered Commenterlearning as I go
    << He looks like I looked in 1975! >>

    I figured as much by now. ;-)

    I you don't mind another man saying so, you're pretty handsome!
    September 4, 2009 at 9:25 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
    Is "task marked for review" the same as "tasks on notice" or "tasks on review"?
    September 4, 2009 at 9:29 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
    Hi Mark,

    Good morning - and what a good idea to try this here. It would be really useful if you can explain in your running commentary today the rules that you are following, and anything that crops up around why you do and don't do certain tasks. Without knowing what the new process is that you are following it is difficult to appreciate how and why the list is being covered. Also why and how there are two lists, or two parts to the list.

    Regards,
    Jonathan
    ----
    The list is divided into two unequal parts, divided by a line ———————. Different rules apply to each part. I am starting where I left off yesterday, near the end of the list. The method here is to move down the list taking action on those tasks which feel ready to be done.
    September 4, 2009 at 9:29 | Unregistered CommenterJonathan
    Learning:

    << Because I work from a weekly format, I'm shocked that you define work less than 3 days old as a backlog! >>

    Perhaps that is the reason Mark prefers not to call it a backlog.
    September 4, 2009 at 9:31 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
    I presume (based on what Mark has said previously) that the completed tasks are only being shown for our benefit - and are not part of the system.

    It's fascinating then that Mark is doing all of this electronically. Looks like you could run the whole system within a single electronic note...or even a standard, simple task list as long as you can move the line up and down within it.
    September 4, 2009 at 9:41 | Unregistered CommenterFrank
    Good Morning Andreas H.
    This is quite fun....given my options...*blush*....
    This is precisely the reason I couldn't follow DIT. I'm a great proponent of planning my weekly outcomes and that necessitates me ignoring the trivia while I'm focused on other work. I'd go completely bonkers if I had to follow the dictates of random stuff streaming in to decide how I spend my limited resources. Even before I was disabled and had a far more rigorous schedule (I lived out of my calendar for ambitious pursuits, competitions and social life and totally off list for my pleasures and passions) Even then, I ignored the trivia unless I had dead space time...(small units of time between important aims or events)
    Even though I was quite ambitious, my Bohemian spirit prevailed ultimately. If it was important enough, it put on the calendar. If not, it had to wait until I had dead time.....and I was intent on having very little of that! LOL!
    Perhaps, this is why I had such a hard time adjusting my lifestyle to my limitations....It's cruel folly for me to aim very high these days! *blush* My energy and attitude would be severly hampered if I had to chase down backlogs that were less than 3 days old! LOL!

    BTW.....how is your back healing? I sincerely hope that you are enjoying better times.
    learning as I go
    September 4, 2009 at 9:49 | Unregistered Commenterlearning as I go
    p.s.
    Andreas H....could you give me the URL for the hot version of Mark? I'm starving for things to distract me from the flooded brain and sharp pain leaking through the heavy drugs....ahhhh....
    1975.....one of the great years!
    learning as I go
    September 4, 2009 at 9:57 | Unregistered Commenterlearning as I go
    Learning, my back is doing fine. I have been painless for some weeks now. I'm really lucky there was no lasting damage. I feel a little guilty that I was so lucky when you were not. My best wishes go out to you.
    September 4, 2009 at 10:00 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
    Learning, Mark's facebook profile is here: http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Forster/728856766 ;-)
    September 4, 2009 at 10:02 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
    Hi Andreas
    PLEASE! Don't feel guilty! I'm GRATEFUL that you are not suffering any more! My gratitudes keep me fueled to keep on.......so actually I sincerely THANK YOU for giving me such GREAT NEWS! Knowing this about you has actually made me feel much better. Andreas, I thank you for that!
    learning as I go
    September 4, 2009 at 10:09 | Unregistered Commenterlearning as I go
    Thanks, Andreas!
    Mark, is that you circa 1975? You look like you were a famous rocker or actor!
    learning as I go
    September 4, 2009 at 10:13 | Unregistered Commenterlearning as I go
    Does “Taxi Driver” mean Mark's now watching a movie and we can check back in 1 1/2 hours? :-)
    September 4, 2009 at 10:17 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
    Apparently not. ^^
    September 4, 2009 at 10:25 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
    So far, this system is resulting in my most unproductive friday ever. ;-)
    September 4, 2009 at 10:30 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
    Hi Andreas
    Maybe he has to put it in the post to return it.....Netflix or an equivalent....my sister loves her Netflix.....I can't follow movies without backtracking them over and over. My short term memory limitations can't hold the characters or plot! *blush* Therefore, I rarely attempt to watch a movie unless it seems like it would be worth hours and hours of effort to follow it. The last one I watched was Johnny Cash's bio. It was called "Walk the Line"....yes...it was worth it!
    learning as I go
    September 4, 2009 at 10:30 | Unregistered Commenterlearning as I go
    Fascinating! Better than a webcam, I'd say... ;-)

    I suppose the dismissal rule will be that once you enter the backlog and find no task standing out in the first pass-though, you dismiss the whole backlog and draw the new divider line below the open list.

    This is... awesome! Makes RAF looking old and clunky.
    September 4, 2009 at 10:34 | Unregistered CommenterAndreasE
    Hi Andreas
    "So far, this system is resulting in my most unproductive friday ever. ;-)
    September 4, 2009 at 10:30 | Andreas Hofmann"

    ROTFL! It's only 5:30am here so I have no agenda yet....except to walk the dog when the sun rise.....I LOVE that ritual....even at a snail's pace. Plus, no one is around to see me with my embarrassing looking three legged cane! LOL! When people are about, I try not to use it.............talk about ridiculous ego decisions! LOL!
    learning as I go
    September 4, 2009 at 10:37 | Unregistered Commenterlearning as I go
    Hi Learning, must be something different, because he re-added it. Or he put it in an envelope and when he next comes to it, he'll put stamp on it or mail it.

    Well, perhaps it's not the most important aspect to pay attention to. ;-)

    Does the cycling through the backlog (what *do* you prefer to call it, Mark?) work like cycling through a page in AF1/Forward Mode? If you do a complete pass without actioning anything, you leave the backlog?
    September 4, 2009 at 10:38 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
    hi Andreas
    Maybe he's waiting for a bundle of things to carry to the mail box.
    I'm starting to feel like a voyeur! *blush*......I'll walk the dog to shake off that feeling! Just kidding!
    learning as I go
    September 4, 2009 at 10:54 | Unregistered Commenterlearning as I go
    Hi Andreas
    You stated:
    "I suppose the dismissal rule will be that once you enter the backlog and find no task standing out in the first pass-though, you dismiss the whole backlog and draw the new divider line below the open list."

    HOLY MOLY! Are you asserting that everything above today's italicized entries would become the new backlog?
    And what is the fate of the original backlog items?....or does it all become an even bigger lump or............scary thought..........the current backlog gets dismissed?
    That sounds like lightening speed! A mid day nap or an impromptu social visit could throw off the whole thing! LOL! WAY too fast for the like of me! LOL!
    learning as I go
    September 4, 2009 at 11:04 | Unregistered Commenterlearning as I go
    Just in case anyone's interested, the SiteDelta addon for Firefox works really well for watching this live experiment - makes it very obvious how Mark is working the list.
    September 4, 2009 at 11:05 | Unregistered CommenterFrank
    p.s.
    You stated in another post:
    "Does the cycling through the backlog (what *do* you prefer to call it, Mark?) work like cycling through a page in AF1/Forward Mode? If you do a complete pass without actioning anything, you leave the backlog?"

    I would guess not....not having a consequence of not acting on it procedurally would be too willy nilly.....His recent blog posts and comments infer that he's incorporating more procedural discipline into the new system to ensure progress and prevent willful avoidance/neglect.
    learning as I go
    September 4, 2009 at 11:09 | Unregistered Commenterlearning as I go
    "I suppose the dismissal rule will be that once you enter the backlog and find no task standing out in the first pass-though, you dismiss the whole backlog and draw the new divider line below the open list."

    I think that would be too drastic...probably dismissing whatever is left at the end of the day might be better...though even that is pretty drastic.
    September 4, 2009 at 11:09 | Unregistered CommenterFrank
    Wow, this really brings home to me why I have to prioritize and dismiss a lot to keep up and MF does not.
    September 4, 2009 at 11:25 | Unregistered CommenterJacqueline
    Hi Frank
    I totally concur with your sentiments!.......but then again, he's working off his list from 8am to 11pm..................that's PLENTY of time to knock out quite a bit of work! He has stated previously that he almost lives out of his list. Therefore, it's hard for me to guess how he's thinking. My goal is to get myself OUT of my list ASAP each day! I'll have to defer to your AF knowledge and experience in these matters.
    learning as I go
    September 4, 2009 at 11:25 | Unregistered Commenterlearning as I go
    I don't find this drastic. You might very well work on a backlog (=the part of the list ABOVE the divider line) several days. You just have to find anything in it to work on.

    But "dismiss it if on the first pass no task stands out" would be a very AF-like rule.
    September 4, 2009 at 11:26 | Unregistered CommenterAndreasE
    >>Are you asserting that everything above today's italicized entries would become the new backlog?<<

    No. The whole second part of the list will become the backlog the moment the momentary backlog gets dismissed.

    That's only my assumption, of course.
    September 4, 2009 at 11:28 | Unregistered CommenterAndreasE
    Morning Jacq
    I don't understand what you mean.....how does Mark's way differ from yours other than prioritizing....???? Is he displaying a superior method that my uneducated eyes (non AF mentality or experience) are missing?
    learning as I go
    September 4, 2009 at 11:31 | Unregistered Commenterlearning as I go
    Hey Learning,

    I scored a copy of "The West Wing" (the pilot episode) if you are interested. I have not done more than that (i.e. find an upload site where I could place it so you could download it at your leisure) in case you are not interested upon further reflection.

    However, if you are, send an email with your email address to my new dummy email address:

    Erik.Satie@softhome.net

    and I'll work out the details. (I was in a fit of musical whimsy when I made that one up! ;-) I've done it before so it should not be a big deal.

    Fun stuff, this watching Mark go about his routine. It gives an interesting insight into how the world looks to him. He certainly DOES put everything on his list. LOL ;-)
    September 4, 2009 at 11:32 | Unregistered CommenterMike
    I'll be back.......suns coming up....don't want to miss it....
    I'm sure I'll be gifted with more of your great minds trying to solve the mystery! This is great fun!
    learning as I go
    September 4, 2009 at 11:33 | Unregistered Commenterlearning as I go
    Andreas,

    I wonder if it would be more likely that a new backlog would not be declared until the next day. That is what I would do. I can't see including an item I just wrote on the bottom of the list a minute ago to be part of a "backlog". But then, Mark has said he is not calling it a "backlog" so that may be why he might do something like that. Sometimes terminology is king ;-)
    September 4, 2009 at 11:35 | Unregistered CommenterMike
    @AndreasE,

    "I don't find this drastic. You might very well work on a backlog (=the part of the list ABOVE the divider line) several days. You just have to find anything in it to work on."

    In Mark's comment at 10.53, he states he did not find anything to work on above-the-line...and he didn't dismiss the above-the-line tasks.

    I was suspecting that Mark would put everything above the line on review at the beginning of the day (to be dismissed the day after). But he didn't start off with anything in review, so that seems to negate that theory.
    September 4, 2009 at 11:38 | Unregistered CommenterFrank
    Hey learning,
    It's that everything that he's doing in 15 hours are things I'd like to do too - but only have about 3 hours to do it in. Because I'm not retired with no kids.
    I think most people that have a full time job and families have to figure out what their priorities are.

    Mike, I'm worried that he's not eating though. Maybe today is a fasting day?
    September 4, 2009 at 11:43 | Unregistered CommenterJacqueline
    Frank:

    <<In Mark's comment at 10.53, he states he did not find anything to work on above-the-line...and he didn't dismiss the above-the-line tasks.>>

    Yes, but he did action several tasks above the line before that pass. So it could still be like a AF1 page. No action on first pass -> dismiss, no action on later pass -> leave backlog.

    I have a feeling we won't see any dismissing today.

    Re SiteDelta: Yes, it's really great for this. I primed it yesterday to watch the blog area and I also told it to keep backup copies of the changes. So I can go back in time and watch it step by step.
    September 4, 2009 at 11:43 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
    Mike:

    <<I wonder if it would be more likely that a new backlog would not be declared until the next day. >>

    Mark stated concerning the backlog line:

    << It goes at the end of the whole list when the previous "backlog" is completed. >>

    I think that would include doing everything as well as dismissing everything.
    September 4, 2009 at 11:48 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
    What I like so far is that it really removes emphasis from working on the latest and loudest in that the recently added tasks are only passed once. That was the greatest flaw with AF2/RAF in my eyes.
    September 4, 2009 at 11:52 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
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